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| Goku Black | Aug 1 2014, 03:41 AM Post #1 |
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Who takes this? Ems sasuke vs saiyan saga vegeta. |
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| TheACE | Aug 1 2014, 04:08 AM Post #2 |
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Largely the same issue we run into with Gohan or Goku vs Sasuke. Vegeta's far too fast and wields far too much destructive force. In short, he's too much for Sasuke to handle. Vegeta's got enough power to wipe out a planet at this point, and something tells me if Susano couldn't beat the Senjus, it won't hold up against a Saiyan. |
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| Goku Black | Aug 1 2014, 04:28 AM Post #3 |
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The susano'o or amateratsu would do nothing to vegeta? |
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| Rogafufuken | Aug 1 2014, 04:37 AM Post #4 |
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Vegeta wins, he's faster, stronger ( as in punchung and kicking etc.) , has more destructive capacity, can fly, and is far more durable than Sasuke is, or probably ever will be, even in the Saiyan Arc. Feel free to argue with me about that, though I know for sure that almost all of it is correct.
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| TheACE | Aug 1 2014, 04:45 AM Post #5 |
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Sadly no, even in the Naru-Verse, we've learned that Amaterasu or Susano'o are very powerful but still have flaws. Contrary to their hype, they can be avoided and do have to be aimed. Sasuke demonstrated that against Raikage and Sasuke himself was able to survive it by ditching a body part. It was likely famed as never missing because, Itachi probably had the better aim. Sasuke's control is stellar, but his aim is apparently quite fallible. And with Sasuke at least, he appears to have a finite range, and I don't think I've seen him use the Susano'o weapons like Itachi has, again implicating inferior mastery. So that just leaves a shield for Vegeta to pump planet busters into or turn into a giant were monkey and just pound away at. Sasuke's far from my favorite Naruto character, but he's always been damn good. He, in the same way Naruto isn't Goku good yet, isn't Vegeta good (or in this case badass) yet. |
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| Goku Black | Aug 1 2014, 04:49 AM Post #6 |
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Ah, now I understand now, sasuke's a good fighter but he's not vegeta's or gokus level yet? |
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| TheACE | Aug 1 2014, 05:05 AM Post #7 |
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Not yet. Vegeta's been destroying planets for years at this point and Goku's saved it more times than Sasuke's activated his regular Sharingan. He's done and seen a lot, but he's still not quite ready for the big leagues. Vegeta's seen copy techniques, power up techniques, rays, beams and all of the like. Sasuke's only reasonable chance is a Genjutsu, but Vegeta's will power may make it difficult. And Vegeta's survivability (four times Kamehameha, then a spirit bomb, then an Oozaru body slam?) is just plain stupid at that point. Sasuke is still often rescued, Vegeta limps away, but always under his own power. Hard fought victory goes to Vegeta. Likely leave him quite tired, but still alive and ready for Namek. |
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| + Steve | Aug 1 2014, 02:10 PM Post #8 |
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Will power has no influence over Genjutsu. Also Vegeta being faster is both debatable and doesn't equal a win, the Sharingan is the perfect tool for fighting people stronger than you even if Vegeta can move around faster Sasuke can just watch him easily and predict his moves. He's definitely not tanking Amaterasu or Enton either nor would he understand what they are, it's just some black fire like it would do anything, right? He'd be wrong. Strength =/= blowing up s*** that's just how it works in DBZ they might be able to do that but there's still plenty of characters in plenty of series that could beat them in an arm wrestle or cut their heads off. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Aug 1 2014, 03:40 PM Post #9 |
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Nothing Sasuke could do would hurt Vegeta, so essentially, Vegeta would just wait him out, if Sasuke is too fast. Hell he'd probably just get annoyed and blow up the continent they are on. Good luck avoiding that. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Aug 1 2014, 03:50 PM Post #10 |
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What about genjutsu and Amaterasu? |
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| + Steve | Aug 1 2014, 04:49 PM Post #11 |
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But he has plenty to use against him, Amaterasu is an extremely powerful piercing attack just because it doesn't blow up mountains doesn't make it weak. Even if he tanks the hit then he's on fire constantly, while it's against the rules of this section yeah he'd probably blow the planet up and kill Sasuke but it would be a double kill because he'd die too from being burnt alive. I mean how does he survive it? He has to deal with all of his body burning and no way would he take one of his limbs off willingly if he got hit there. Then there's Genjutsu, he could make Vegeta think he killed Sasuke, wait for him to power down and then stab him through the heart with Chidori or Enton on his sword. That's the kind of thing Sasuke would pull, already did just Deidara was expecting it but he's a well seasoned ninja with a grudge against the Genjutsu users that are the Uchiha. Not to mention Vegeta's sadistic nature at this point, he absolutely would not just insta-kill Sasuke he'd try torturing him and it would backfire. An out of character Vegeta might win if he for whatever reason makes no eye contact. |
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| TheACE | Aug 1 2014, 05:21 PM Post #12 |
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That Sasuke can't seem to aim for s*it, unless you've forgotten the Kage Summit. If I recall correctly the Raikage rather effectively smashed through the Blaze Release variant and Susano'o Sasu was rocking. And Vegeta's actively a mountain crusher in the Saiyan Saga on physical strength. So yeah. Not a weak technique, Itachi was a very effective Amaterasu user.
Again, presuming that Dead Eye Uchiha can hit him, what's to stop Vegeta from using an explosive wave and just nuking everything, and dispelling the flames that way? And if he can't, well Raikage still had a pretty easy time whipping Sasuke's a*** with his arm on fire. So there's no reason to assume that Vegeta couldn't just Galick Gun him out of existence (Because Sasuke is NOT stopping a fully charged Galick Gun). Susano'o can probably survive anything... if you're Itachi of course. Lightning didn't seem to be a problem for Itachi's Susano when he was dying of cancer. Lightning, big problem for Sasuke's even though that's his specialty. Go figure.
I dunno, lose the armor? Again, Raikage really didn't seem to care much, and Kankuro just ripped the armor off of the Samurai. Apparently it doesn't actually burn through anything if you're not Itachi. Who is exactly who Sasuke isn't.
Although we've established that Vegeta can live through rather grevious injuries, the shock and energy would probably shock him out of it, then he'd turn around and break the punk's neck. But I see where your coming from. If he can make eye contact with the jerk that's flying around as hyper sonic speeds punching him through mountains, then maybe. But... let's face it. Sasuke is Kurenai at best with his Genjutsu. He's good, but he's not Itachi good. He's very rarely if ever had a successful Tsukuyomi. He's a ninjutsu type with a knack for Genjutsu but is certainly no expert. How? How would it back fire if he's got Sasuke on the defensive and he can't do anything? Hell, Veggie was the one telling Nappa to quit screwing around because they had Dragon Balls to find and Kakarot was coming. If anything of the two he's the more no-nonsense one. And if you include the Arilia episodes, he's more liable to shoot things and wander off afterwards than sit their and torture them. An in character Vegeta will win because of his unholy survivability, his unprecedented fire power, his years of experience, his physical strength, combat expertise and overall violent and ruthless nature. There is literally nothing Sasuke can do to beat Vegeta. /Thread. |
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Aug 1 2014, 05:21 PM Post #13 |
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vegeta kills him in 1 punch |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Aug 1 2014, 05:41 PM Post #14 |
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A kiai should get rid of the Amaterasu that's burning him(assuming he hits him with it) right? If vegeta is under a genjutsu shouldn't a kiai just knock back sasuke and then sasuke lets him loose. If that's how it works I'm just guessing lol |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Aug 1 2014, 07:37 PM Post #15 |
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Prove to me the Amaterasu is strong. This is Naruto man. Their destructive capabilities are s*** compared to even Master Roshi. All Naruto has is Genjutsu(which should also be against rules since it's always brought up as an insta-win ). Blowing up the continent isn't against the rules. It's creating an explosion big enough to hit him regardless of his speed. How do you know the Amaterasu would burn him? Heat is a non-factor since we don't know what Vegeta's capacity is. Good luck hurting Vegeta while his guard is down. Even in the Saiyajin arc, his powered down mode is still stronger than Goku using Kaioken. Vegeta is also tactical. He's gonna mess with him at first, sure, but when Sasuke starts irritating him, the gloves are off.
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). Blowing up the continent isn't against the rules. It's creating an explosion big enough to hit him regardless of his speed. How do you know the Amaterasu would burn him? Heat is a non-factor since we don't know what Vegeta's capacity is. Good luck hurting Vegeta while his guard is down. Even in the Saiyajin arc, his powered down mode is still stronger than Goku using Kaioken. Vegeta is also tactical. He's gonna mess with him at first, sure, but when Sasuke starts irritating him, the gloves are off.

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